3rd meeting 2nd year of the THEIERE project - 7th April 2002
Model on implementation of 3-5-8, common to all partners
Definition of minimum engineer has to know
New pedagogy
Evaluation methods
What means EIE in several countries?
Number of students, kind of curriculum (weight of EIE in Europe).
Idea of contents
Remarks by Tony Ward that Careerspace has already done some work on model curriculum.
Task 1: 3-5-8 Evolutions
BG- Bulgaria- presented by Silvia Stefanova-
Data taken from a book from the Ministry of Education, March 1997
Courses defended by the government
EIE includes: Electrical Eng, Power Eng , Computers, Communications, Electronics
List of Diplomas – in all engineering sciences 3 years after univ- the title of specialists is given
Bachelor degree: obtained after 4 yearsof study - diploma or Government exam
Masters degree - 5 years or 3 semesters after Bachelor degree
DE- Germany- Otto Rösch will send this information later.
EE- Estonia - presented by Raimund Ubar-
1500 000 people, 52 Universities 8many are private universities)
Tallin Tech Univ.- electronics, Power
Tartu Univ. computer sciences and Control
Tallin Ped Univ- Computer Science
Number of students- 9000 students, Informatics 24%, Power Eng 10%
Doctoral degree 4 years
Bach-3 years
Master 2 years
Bachelor 7330 students
1/3 of the students are paying
ES- Spain- presented by Angel Garcia
Admission- done by institutions
EIE includes- Telecommunications, computer science. Electromechanics and Automation and Electronics
Present Situation: 3-5-7 (Ingeniero Técnico.- Ingeniero- Doctor Ingeniero)
Ministry of Education website- All information available
Pedagogical Content- Defined by specialists: representatives from regions, rectors, known specialists
FI-Finland- presented by Antti Luukko
5 years+ 3 years (doctoral degree) or (licensia- specialists)+2 years
Polytechnics (4 years)- 180 credits
5 univ. Helsinki, Tampere, Lappeenranta, Oulu, Abo (Swedish speaking)
3-5-8 Implementation- Working group by the ministry of Education
Deadline 1 August 2004
New proposal. 3 years, 120 credits (1 Finish credit=1.5 ECTS)
5 years- 180 credits
No attitude to doctoral degree
Polytechnics4 year degree
New 3 year degree
FR- France- presented by Jean-Marc Thiriet
2 years after High-school- Technician degree
classical university
Engineering school- 2+ 3
IE- Ireland- presented by Cyril Burkley
4 years de gree, accredited by the IEI Institute of Engineers in Ireland
No boundaries in EIE
No boundaries between degrees
12 Institutes of Technology
List of accredited programs
Masters 2 years more
3 years more- Doctoral degree
Curricula is decided by the university
Guidelines are provided by the IEI
Problems with 3-5-8 implementation are expected.
IT- Italy- presented by Christian Perra
3 (Diploma de laurea) 5 ( laurea) 8 (doctorado di ricercca) compulsary
MEIE- Multimedia, Computers, electrical engineering, Electronics, etc…
Files from Christian at the THEIERE website
Latvia and Lithuanian partners were absent- information is requested.
NO- Norway- presented by Saba Mylvaganam
EIE is restricted
Medical Technology- new course in Trondheim
Mechatronics is important
Electrical and Measurement Eng.
2 years degree (university colleges)
3 years (Bachelor of sciences)
5 years course (Konscient)
doktoring (60 ECTS))+ Phd
3-5-8 starts this year- 2003 already
There are 5 univ, 25 univ. colleges
Market sector- Distant learning courses
Competitiveness with traditional teaching
Evaluation is changed: Exams are given and students have two days to deliver results.
PL-Poland- presented by Zbigniew Mrozek
Minimum program demand: Maths, Physics, Chemistry are pre-requisites,
ECTS credits applied
5-8 model is the existing educational scheme
private schools 3+5 years program
PT- Portugal- presented by Jorge Esteves
EIE includes several specialities: Computers, Electronics, telecommunications, PowerSystems, Control
ECTS credits are applied
Existing systems: 5+2+5 (Licenciado, Mestre, Doutor)
3+2 (bacharel licenciado)
Title of "Engenheiro" is given by the professional engineering Association "Ordem dos Engenheiros"
Concerning3-5-8 evolution there is internal debate in IST
UK- United Kingdom- presented by Tony Ward
Existing degrees: Bachelor, Master eng/sci
Minimum 6-9 total cycle
ECTS are applicable